Perception, Hype, and Reality: Settling the Pac-10/SEC Feud

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Leon Wynn about 1 year ago
25 years of history, should beneficial to you.
I-A Winning Percentage 1982-2006 (25 years)
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Rank Team name Win-Pct Won Lost Tied Games
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1 Miami-Florida 0.80795 244 58 0 302
2 Nebraska 0.80671 252 60 1 313
3 Florida State 0.79288 243 62 4 309
4 Michigan 0.75327 228 73 5 306
5 Florida 0.74919 228 75 4 307
6 Ohio State 0.74346 225 76 5 306
7 Tennessee 0.74104 224 76 7 307
8 Auburn 0.71927 214 82 5 301
9 Oklahoma 0.70847 207 84 4 295
10 Penn State 0.70530 212 88 2 302
11 Georgia 0.69702 208 89 5 302
12 Texas 0.69371 208 91 3 302
13 Brigham Young 0.68038 214 100 2 316
14 Texas A&M 0.67276 201 97 3 301
15 Notre Dame 0.67167 200 97 3 300
16 Virginia Tech 0.66498 196 98 3 297
17 Southern Cal 0.66447 199 99 6 304
18 Clemson 0.65709 192 99 5 296
19 Fresno State 0.64967 196 105 3 304
20 Alabama 0.64098 195 109 1 305
21 Toledo 0.64062 182 101 5 288
22 Washington 0.63682 187 106 3 296
23 UCLA 0.63345 185 106 5 296
24 West Virginia 0.62838 184 108 4 296
25 Louisiana State 0.62795 184 108 5 297
26 Air Force 0.62007 188 115 1 304
27 Iowa 0.60927 181 115 6 302
28 Arkansas 0.60067 177 117 4 298
29 Southern Miss 0.59828 173 116 1 290
30 Syracuse 0.59661 174 117 4 295
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Leon Wynn about 1 year ago
I apologize for the shoddy formatting, but I only wanted to point out SC's 199-99 record.
Southern Cal has 11 National titles, Alabama has 12.
But let's not argue over statistics that can be easily manipulated in favor of either side.
I will admit that this year has been topsy-turvy. Just look at the polls; they are fairly balanced with representation from all conferences.
acc-4
big 10-3
big 12-4
big east-3
cusa-0
mac-0
mtwest-0
pac 10-4
sec-6
sun belt-0
wac-1
Of course the SEC still has a couple more than any other conference.
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Leon Wynn about 1 year ago
The SEC usually has 6 good teams, 3 average, and 3 horrible. The results on the field absolutely back up what I am saying-and this is a bad year for the SEC.
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Leon Wynn about 1 year ago
I read your article, no need to copy/paste a portion of it again without adding anything new.
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Erick Blasco about 1 year ago
In terms of this season, the Pac 10 is exceptionally strong so far because they have a number of key non-conference wins so far, while the SEC has only OK State, Kansas State, Va Tech, and Southern Miss to hang their hats on with USF, Cal, and Missouri have all pegging defeats against the conference.
However the conference is stronger when you look at the fact that a team like Georgia, which handled OK State easily, ended up losing to South Carolina. The fact that most teams in the SEC do well outside of conference, yet any team can end up beating any other team gives the conference a great deal of credibility.
Over the last four or five years though, the Pac 10 hasn't had the depth of quality teams that force a fan to take notice to the overall conference's strength. For sure, USC is a super team, and though most SEC fans might not want to admit it, they could've gone undefeated in the SEC at least once or twice during the last four or five years, and would have had an excellent shot at winning the conference any year of the last five.
But then what is there? Yes, Cal has been a prominent team the last few years. But if you want to hype up their 2004 season where they got screwed out of the BCS, why don't you also look at their awful non-conference schedule that season and their blowout loss to Texas Tech?
Plus, Pac 10 teams have struggled the last handful of years beating the SEC on the road. It would do wonders for the conference if, say, Washington State can go into Auburn and come up with a victory, or if Cal can go into Tennessee and not piss their pants. Most SEC teams are very competitive in conference on the road. If a PAC 10 team went on the road and gave a good SEC team a great game, it would boost the perception of the conference even further.
The main problems with the PAC 10 are that:
1), Their bowl tie-ins aren't very good. They only have one game on New Year's Day and that's the Rose Bowl. The number two tie in, the Holliday Bowl, comes around Christmas Day and faces a #3 Big 12 team. If the Pac 10 had a second bowl game on Christmas Day, and had a tie-in against the SEC, it would be great for the conference.
2) Their mid level teams have been inconsitent the last few years. We never know which Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, and Arizona State teams will show up. That factor can be fine if the inconsistent team manages to jump up and beat one of the elite teams (last year's UCLA victory over USC does wonders for the depth of the conference, for example), but usually it leaves the country with a feeling that the other teams simply don't stack up.
The PAC 10 isn't some patsy conference though, and is easily the second best conference in the country.
And remember---and this goes for the Pac 10 and the SEC---don't judge teams by their conference affiliation and take each team by its individual merits. That will help determine the strength of each team and will ultimately help in conference evaluations.
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Robbie Munroe about 1 year ago
Neither the Pac-10 nor the SEC is the best conference right now. The best conference is clearly the Big East (15-2). Maybe WVU should be ranked #1? No wait...USC is the greatest team to ever play college football. ;-)
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