Basketball season has officially ended for Kansas State University. Of course I’m going to watch every minute of the remaining three games—mostly because I have this fantasy where KU goes down in a ball of flames, but my heart has moved on to my first and one true love: Kansas State football.
Let me first say that the last four seasons have not been what Wildcat fans are used to. Instead, the first two were a study in watching the greatest coach in college football history lose in embarrassing fashion to his progeny. (Currently, six Division-1 head coaches owe their jobs to Bill Snyder—Phil Bennett-Southern Methodist University, Bret Bielema-University of Wisconsin, Jim Leavitt-University of South Florida, Mark Mangino-University of Kansas, Bob Stoops-University of Oklahoma, and Mike Stoops-University of Arizona. Bill Snyder was 1-3 against Mangino and Stoops in his last two seasons).
The last two were a combination of excitement over Ron Prince’s hiring and the sad realization that he wasn’t another Bill Snyder. Granted, Bill Snyder didn’t have a winning season until his third year, but he inherited the worst program in the nation—not the case for Ron Prince.
In three years Ron Prince has gone from a winning season to two back-to-back losing seasons—something Wildcat fans aren’t used to (Kansas State had 8-straight and 10 out of 11 winning seasons from ’93-’03).
I’m now going to outline why I think that this is Ron Prince’s last year at Kansas State and why I think the Wildcats won’t fare well in ’08.
Reason No. 1—Kansas State just named Bob Krause the new Athletic Director. After this year, Ron Prince will have had three years to prove he can coach, if he can’t do that, Bob has an easy time bringing in someone he wants—after all, if Oklahoma State can fire Sean Sutton after two years after he gave them twenty plus, Ron Prince is easy to kick out of Manhattan after three.
Reason No. 2—Ron Prince is bringing in five, four-star recruits—all of whom are JuCo transfers (he’s never recruited a five-star player). Those five recruits are equal to the total number of four-star recruits from his first two seasons combined.
I’m not a coach (sometimes I wonder why), but I find it hard to believe that you can build a winning D-1 program with purely JuCo recruits. Leon Patton and Josh Freeman remain the only four-star players Prince has ever recruited that aren’t from a JuCo; while Leon will be a solid running back if Prince can throw a decent offensive line in front of him and everyone keeps telling me Josh is a good quarterback, I still don’t see an offensive line worth writing home about and I would give my left leg to see Carson Coffman get more than five minutes of playing time because I’m positive he would show up Josh.
My point being that Ron Prince has failed to reel in a recruiting class worth noting—not a good way to endear yourself to a new AD or, more importantly, the legions of Wildcats fans that live and die with their team every year. I don’t think that after this year’s schedule, Ron has a chance at another recruiting class.
That brings me to Reason No, 3—Kansas State’s 2008 schedule. After dropping Fresno State in lieu of Montana State, the Wildcats’ pre-conference schedule is weak at best (sans Louisville). In contrast to their pre-conference schedule, Kansas State’s tour of the Big 12 is a brutal gauntlet of games that any team in the conference would have a tough time with.
Road games at Texas A&M, Colorado, Kansas, and conference champions Missouri do not bode well for an undermanned Wildcat squad. In my idealistic world K-State will start 3-1 with their first loss coming at Louisville. After that it’s eight straight conference games that, in my opinion, the ‘Cats will be lucky to win two of.
I see K-State winning two games out of their three contests with Colorado, Kansas, and Iowa State. Either way, I have a real hard time seeing my beloved Wildcats escaping the 2008 season with more than five wins (and that comes from a perennial optimist—I predicted seven wins in 2007 and we ended up with what, five?!).
If the atmosphere and fans in Manhattan are ever to factor into the Wildcats' success, this is the year. K-State will be more reliant than ever on their fans to help them get over the hill in close home games. The 'Cats should be able to steal one road game and if they can win three out of four at home, they will fare better than even I predict they will.You can bet your life that I’ll be at every home game and at least one road game to cheer on my ‘Cats. I honestly think we can beat our hated rivals to the east—the Jayhawks—but this year will, sadly, not be a diversion from the last four. Yet rest assured Wildcat fans, come 2009 we should, in my opinion, either have a new head coach to guide us back to the glory and dominance we are accustomed to, or have faired well enough in '08 to warrant giving Ron Prince one more go at a winning season.
Since I’m sure I’ve exceeded the attention span of just about everyone reading this article, I’ll save my in-depth critique of Kansas State’s offense and defense for another day. I’ll leave you with my prediction for the Kansas State University Wildcats football team of 2008: an optimistic 6-6 with wins over North Texas, Montana State, Louisiana-Lafayette, Colorado, Kansas, and Iowa State.
Only time will tell, but I'm afraid the Wildcat Nation will have to wait a bit longer for the Wildcats' return to dominance. 2008 will decide the fate of KSU football for at least half a decade to come, let's all hope for the best. But remember, no matter the outcome, every man a Wildcat!












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3 months ago
Spot on analysis.
-- Specs Murdock, KSU curmudgeon
3 months ago
You're kidding, right? Mangino wins in year six without big time recruits. You say they are required. Freeman without an O-Line, per you, is rewriting the record books, but has done nothing to impress you. Coffman hasn't played and you're sure he's better. If you add A&M and NU (new coaches) to the possible wins, we could be well ahead of where Snyder left the program.
Oh, and you do realize we lost key players to injury last year, don't you? Coaching was a factor but injuries hurt Moore, get it? Campbell, Kline and the absence of Josh Moore in the secondary didn't help either. But those things probably would have any effect on our play. (sarcasm)
from 3 months ago
Any Big 12 quarterback can set a record for most passing attempts in a season if their offense never runs the ball (351 attempts in 2007, 688 in 2003-when we won the Big 12 if you'll remember). Also, as soon as Josh has a passer rating in the Top-10 for K-State, I'll entertain that he's such a great quarterback. I almost feel sorry for him - this year Ron Prince won't be able to blame his interceptions and spectacular (-3.3 rush ypg) rushing performances on being 'young' or 'inexperienced', because really, he wasn't last year either.
Yes, injuries did hurt the Wildcats last year, but I think our coaching hurt way more. The fact that they took the best defensive player on the team in Campbell and moved him away from what he was one of the best in the country at (pass rushing), blows my mind. The play calling of James Franklin was the most bizarre I've ever seen, but maybe Dave Brock can do better. Injuries will hurt again this year, as Deon Murphy being hurt leaves Josh with essentially no one worth noting to throw to.
First, if you think that this K-State team will go to College Station and beat the Aggies, you're either really stupid or know something I don't, because if I remember correctly, A&M beat two of the teams we lost to - including the one who handed us the worst loss in over twenty years (Nebraska). Secondly, you do remember that Nebraska game last year, right? And do you know that Nebraska is losing hardly anyone? Maybe you don't realize that every conference road game the Wildcats face are against teams that finished above them last year. And surely it doesn't matter than two of our four conference home games are against the defending Big 12 South champions (Oklahoma) and one of the most prolific offenses in the nation (Texas Tech), right? But I imagine you know a lot more about it than I do. (sarcasm)
3 months ago
Good stuff here, Hayes. Boy, would I love to see KSU knock off kU...
3 months ago
Being an avid Wildcat fan myself, I'd have to say you hit the nail on the head with your article and drilled your response to that post. JJ, I'd love to see K-State beat the Jayhawks too, but that's where I'm going to have to disagree with Hayes - I just don't see us going to Lawrence and beating the Orange Bowl champs. Hope I'm wrong... Go State!
3 months ago
Being an avid Wildcat fan myself, I'd have to say you hit the nail on the head with your article and drilled your response to that post. JJ, I'd love to see K-State beat the Jayhawks too, but that's where I'm going to have to disagree with Hayes - I just don't see us going to Lawrence and beating the Orange Bowl champs. Hope I'm wrong... Go State!
3 months ago
this is an horible analysis. i cant believe u think ksu will not win barely 6. they have a good team with lots experence this year. they will do good and u'll see.
3 months ago
Well since I don't know how to fix my second post, what I meant to do was quote Mr. Anonymous and say: I like that guy!
I hope you're right man, but I doubt it. I follow and study the Wildcats closer than just about anybody and in my semi-informed opinion, all that experience you talk about doesn't matter if we can't put a coherent offense or defense on the field.
3 months ago
Your kitties will only win 3 games. They'll beat the scrubs but they ain't touchin ne1 in the big 12. Feel sorry for ya, relly do.
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