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I've been reading through the comments for a few days now and I still can't believe people are calling for Birmingham's Martin Taylor to be banned for a lengthy spell...

Don't Ban Martin Taylor for Eduardo da Silva Tackle

by Andrew McNair (Senior Writer)

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February 27, 2008


I've been reading through the comments for a few days now and I still can't believe people are calling for Birmingham's Martin Taylor to be banned for a lengthy spell.  Or even for life!

Taylor was the man behind the tackle on Arsenal’s Eduardo da Silva, leaving the Croatian International with a very serious broken leg.

But it was not the worst tackle of the season, or even close.  This was simply a mis-timed and poorly judged move.  Solid, yes—but what else do you expect from a six-foot-plus tall center back?

Listen to me carefully everybody: We cannot eradicate all injuries in sports.

Taylor was distraught over the whole incident and has apologized many times.  He has also met personally with da Silva, and the injured player accepts that it was a footballing accident.  So why can't all of you?

If Taylor were to be banned, he would be left with no livelihood—no income and no career.

For all of you who say the EPL is too rough, I must ask, why are you watching it over your own domestic league?  Is it not because it's the greatest league in the world?

The EPL is the world’s best because it doesn't conform to the standards of any other European league, and foreign players have grown to love the physicality associated with it.

I feel sorry for Eduardo.  He has suffered unimaginable pain.  But I also feel for Martin Taylor.  He is a decent chap (with the nickname “Tiny,” I might add) and still is being slated (personally) by most of the footballing world.

Not in England though!

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  1. S B about 1 year ago

    BRAZILIAN PLAYERS SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THESE WEAKER LEAGUES.
    The players in these leagues tend to make up for their lack of talent with violence.

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  2. Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

    weaker leagues? Eduardo turned his back on Brazil when he played for Croatia. What Viloence? i see violence at many brazillian games by fans, and by players attacking the referee....where are you coming from Darlon???

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      Andrew
      Eduardo is....was an average player who would have never had a chance of playing for Brazil.
      Plus there must have been money involved as well obviously.
      Don't even try to compare fan violence and ref chucking.....with that criminal attack.
      KaKa has turned some English club down.....think it's Chelsea .....wise move on his part.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      Darlon ever wondered why no European players go and play in Brazil? Why can't I compare your claim of violence against Eduardo with the violence shown in your own country?

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      Andrew
      Well first of all there are some euro's playing in Brazil.
      But that's besides the point....... the main point would be the MONEY.

      You guys just don't realise that it's all about the money. Players play where they earn more not where the football is good. Players pay 98% of their attention to the bank account and 2% to the fans,passion and all that other crap.

      Brazilian clubs don't pay as much as Euro clubs for many reasons.
      1) Brazilian club owners simply prefer to make millions constantly selling players to Europe.
      2) There is a lot of corruption in Brazilian Club football. Sometimes players get late salaries etc.
      3) Why buy players when every year there are new superstars coming to age.
      4) The fans simply look at foreigners as somehow inferior and the ones that are here must play exceptionally to earn approval.

      You may argue then "Why don't they play in Dubai or Japan...well the answer would be marketing.
      The Euro tournaments get heavy press thus marketing the players better...leading to endorsements.
      The salary might be higher in Japan and the league even easier that Euroland but no money from NIKE,Gelette etc. Advertisement adds make up a huge chunk of players total bucks.

      So like I said "It's all about the MONEY" Stop being conned into believing that players come to your league cause they want to be so blessed as to play in such a glorious league.
      What's even sadder is that some Brazilians opt to not care about the money and return to real football.
      Most finish their career at home.....in the late days they are already rich....so it can start being about the football again.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      Okay so Brazil produce great players. I have never disputed that. Yes players go for the money Darlon, but what happens when you put so many great players in one league, it raises the standard and we get a better league.

      But Brazilian football is not real football if it's corrupt and bought.

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      Yes it does raise the standard but only to a small extent as compared to the place where everybody plays like these guys you consider stars.

      A good example of what I'm talking about is our friend Eduardo. This guy never even made it into a professional club in Brazil. He could not get any team to take him as one of their home grown projects (which are very popular in Brazil growing the future product for sale) Let's just say he was a nobody.
      You go on to the beach in Rio and you see guys like this playing all around.
      Yet in Europe ....he's considered a star.

      Brazilians set the mark higher.

      I never said the Brazilian league is corrupt. The teams are corrupt and even mismanaged at times but not the league.

      Match fixing tends to follow the money ...thus Italian League is the most recent ...EPL has had its stint..and it never ends even at a country tournament level. FIFA has a vested interest in maintaining the fans of the most lucrative zone in the world happy.

      If you don't let the rich kid score ....he will take his ball away.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      Darlon you have a serious bee in ur bonnet. FIFA are corrupt? I'm sorry but there is no talking to you.

      Have you ever heard of a late developer? some players only grow at 18,19,20 and find thier own way into Pro football. Why can't we call him a star? Look at Ronaldo and Ronaldinho...over paid, over weight and out of form.

      Eduardo did a lot of good things for Croatian football and yes he is a star.

      You blame everything on money but I'm pretty sure you have plenty yourself.

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      Andrew
      I make money betting cause I understand how things work.
      I'm a Brazilian who bet against the odds for Brazil to lose the last world cup.
      Brazil will also lose 2010 and I strongly believe Spain may win or even England.
      There is no interest in an African team winnig...they got no money ...no market.

      I tell you what......I believe there is a Euro cup coming up....it's not really my speciality...but at some point I will give you a tip that you may consider totally wrong but by luck it will happen.
      I'll make a believer of you yet.

      Do you really for a second think that the most lucrative sport on the planet is squeaky clean and FIFA's only interest is spreading joy and happiness.
      Wake up dude.

      The irony in all of this is that Brazil is one of the countries that is constantly favoured.

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  3. Clement Andreau about 1 year ago

    First of all, when you are asking "why are you watching it over your own domestic league?" well because it is one of the best,for sure. I personally, follow 4 leagues at the same time (thanks canalsat!), and I really like the EPL. However most of the analysts, will tell you that it is a really rough league, and the roughest are usually the "small" teams. Off course Taylor should not be banned for life, but 3 games is not much.

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  4. Matt S about 1 year ago

    I agree 100%, the fact that Eduardo himself has accepted it as an accident and part of the game says more than anyone else who argues otherwise.

    Punish players additionally for reckless, unprofessional challenges, ie like with Roy Keane for his “tackle” on Haaland (albeit done a couple of years down the line) but if extra games punishment are handed out for this then it’s a dangerous road to head down – one that will only lead to football becoming a non-contact sport. Although a lot of people on here seem to be bizarely in favour of this.

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  5. Clement Andreau about 1 year ago

    I am not in favour of non contact, I am in favour of fair contact. If you break someone's leg, I am sorry to say you deserve to be banned for more then 3 games. If you watch Spanish or Ita

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  6. Clement Andreau about 1 year ago

    (oops got a connexion problem)
    I am not in favour of non contact, I am in favour of fair contact. If you break someone's leg, I am sorry to say you deserve to be banned for more then 3 games. If you watch French,Spanish or Italian League you ll see they have a lot of contacts but its physical challenge,not roughness.
    There is a way to play "physical" that requires skills, and being rough is not one of them.

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  7. Carlos santamaria about 1 year ago

    "The EPL is the world’s best because it doesn't conform to the standards of any other European league, and foreign players have grown to love the physicality associated with it" It seems to me that Andrew McNair really doesn't known much about football history. If you guys are so good why British Teams underperform in international events? when was the last time that England won the World Cup? How come the italian an Spanish leagues produce 30% more revenues than the FA? The fact is that being rough doesn't mean that you are better than the opponent. Normally the less skilled player is the weakest one and therefore the one most likely to use brute force. The good thing about this type of player is that they will never amount much, people remember the talented ones, like Cruyff, Best, Maradona, Pele etc. Martin Taylor already had his 15 minutes of fame, and thanks to God hel will fade away soon. The sooner the better. As for you Mr. here is the link that will show you that Spain and Italy rules over England in UEFA championships: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League,
    And for the FIFA Intercontinental Club you can also see that you guys are very far away for beieng the best. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_Cup_and_FIFA_Club_World_Cup_statistics

    Next time inform yourself better.

    CAS

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      Excuse me Carlos but what are you on about? I wrote an article about Martin Taylor and responded to peoples comments about it being a great league.

      I take offence at you saying I know little about football history. I wasn't writing an article on football history was I?

      Revenues? World Cups? You are way beyond the point of my article.

      Two last points.....football wouldnt exist without players like him and secondly when did Spain win the World Cup?

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    • Brad Simkulet about 1 year ago

      C'mon, Carlos. Andrew was talking about the present, not football history. All five of the big European leagues have spent a decade, at least, as the best in Europe. But right now, today, everyone is going to the Premiership because it is the best. And Andrew was talking about Taylor in that context. I wish people would understand the argument being made before making comments that have no relevance.

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  8. Simon Williams about 1 year ago

    Totally agree Andrew, as I am sure you already know.

    Please ignore these insults from fans of feeble leagues whose players roll around like dying swans at the slightest element of physical contact.

    Many foreign players who have played in England, such as Torres, Henry to name but two, love the English game because of its physicality as much as anything else. Sure they might not like the fact that they get kicked a lot, but they accept it, and deal with it in the right manner, and know that their own game can be more physical as a result of the rules being slightly more lax than elsewhere.

    Serious injuries in the English game are not more prevalent than elsewhere, because football injuries are not generally caused by physical contact between players, a fact ignored by most of the EPL haters.

    As for the post above, Carlos, where is Andrew saying the British teams are the best? Or that being rough makes you better than your opponent? He says the league is the best, not because it is British, but because it has some of the best players in the world, playing at a harder physical level than arguably any other league. You may be 'informed' as you claim Carlos, but you clearly cannot understand a basic argument that the strength of a cosmopolitan league does not directly correlate to the strength of British national teams.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      You make some good points Simon. Thanks for the support.

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      You are absolutely right Simon. How dare they come to England and try to be skillful.....skillful is Gerard ...did you see him curl that ball off the Bolton golie's head ...core skill...wicked....these softies will never learn real football....yeah what say you and I put on some ties on our heads and go bash cars later to celebrate.
      http://www.metacafe.com/watch/64141/scottish_soccer_hooligans/

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    • Simon Williams about 1 year ago

      Why can't you separate the English league from old stereotypes about football hooligans? No-one is saying anything about English skill either.

      What has my picture got to do with anything?

      You are Brazillian so should I assume you live in a shanty town, are a desperate misogynist, worship a god that doesn't exist, can't afford shoes and shoot people for 1 real on your dirty streets?

      Or should I actually judge each individual as I find them and not believe everything I read in the media and not make ridiculous statements that make me look like a t*at?

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      How did you know all that about me? And for your information that bloke had a good 10 real on him OK....and a watch.

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  9. Clement Andreau about 1 year ago

    Yeah, Carlos went to far, and its not just the less skilled players twho use "brute force". Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira as talent as they are ( was for the Irish) , could be rough (especially when they played against each other), I just think it is too common in the EPL. And btw using wikipedia to reference on leagues revenues is not the best thing to do. I think EPL is the most popular league in the world, and their 4 big teams are among the best 10 teams in Europe. I am not gonna say its the best because I dont even think there is one better than the other, i ll just say EPL, Liga and Calcio are number ones, then come France and Germany in second, then in third Portugal Holland and Scotland (and that is a very personnal opinion).

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  10. David Jacobs about 1 year ago

    Arsene Wenger has retracted his statement about Taylor who "shouldn't be allowed to play on a football pitch again". If he is decent enough to do that, why aren't any of the arsenal fans who want Taylor dead do the same?

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      Thanks for that point David..I should have put that in.

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    • Brad Simkulet about 1 year ago

      I am an Arsenal fan and I would just like to point out that I wrote an article before Arsene retracted his comments and I had already said that Arsene went too far, David. So there is at least one of us out there.

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  11. Anonymous about 1 year ago

    The EPL physical? What a joke...Just because a player gets injured you talk about it being physical? As far as I know, players are very fair when they tackle in the EPL. if you want physical you have to watch the Argentine league, or the Uruguayan league, where players run much more and commit intentional and very rough fouls...they also have great skills, but that's beyond the point. Not that you guys know no history, but you obviously don't watch much soccer. Keep thinking the EPL is the best league in the world, that's why you barely win anything internationally...

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  12. Clement Andreau about 1 year ago

    Krupovisea is the exemple of what you are saying. The fouls in Clausura are more due to nerves than "natural" roughness. And When they play in Copa Libertadores clubs like Boca don't really play that rough I think.
    But as we said before, EPL and English national team performance are not so linked, although I think it is because their defenders and keepers are not good enough that England r not performing well.
    And man, admit that EPL is one of the Best League in the world, also I really like Boca.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      I'm glad the behaviour of South Americans was brought up as they can be really dirty! Every league has its days of skill and days like the EPL's on saturday, that it must forget and move on.

      There is a link between the EPL and the England team as not enough English players are getting a chance but thats what happens when the league is so competitive. And that I must say is a whole different story.

      Thanks Clement.

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  13. Anonymous about 1 year ago

    You guys are real something. English being the best or French or Italian. You all are a joke. This is about the player who's leg gets broken! Taylor should get 2-3 years band at least! Taylor did not met him in person. You are a fool and a layer. Why are you all Englishman cruel and violent and there in no reason to be. Why cant you play normal footbal? But no....you must beak something or i wouldn't be interesting. You have people with geat talents talents and you have to spice it with filthy game. That is not the answer

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  14. Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

    Funnily enough I don't like being called a fool or a liar. My article was never about what is best, was it? No!

    All of Taylors team mates and former pro's have vouched for his kind manner, so why should I say any different? That makes me a liar? Why should he get banned for that length of time? Give me ONE good reason!!!

    Oh and what is normal football mate? I personally thought there was only one rulebook!

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  15. Mike Prescott about 1 year ago

    Taylor miss-times a tackle, breaks da Silva’s leg and people want him banned for life?! What a strange world we live in. What next, season long suspensions for breaking someone’s finger nail? Players of any sport accept the possibility of injury when they take to the field. Injuries happens, get over it.

    Now had Taylor intentionally tried to harm da Silva (i.e. Keane on Haaland) I’d say yes, throw the book at him. But he didn’t. He tried to get the ball, missed, and caught the player. If you say he should never play again because of a mistake then you’ll never see another tackle in football. You’d be turning it in to nothing more than ballet with a ball!!!

    Taylor should get a 3 game ban and that’s it. Anything else is just over the top sensationalism. Thank goodness for people like Andrew who talk sense.

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  1. azza about 1 year ago

    everyone is making such a fuss about this, ive seen worst than this in my football league. i only play U16 football, and ive seen my own team mate get his leg broke, and it was much worst than da silva's! he got 2 footed from before, and yes, it was on purpose, but he didnt mean to break his leg, only to hurt him... hes been out for over 10 months, and still cant walk proply...

    back onto the subject, i cant see why taylor should get banned for this... and people saying he should get banned for 2-3 year??? thats just perfectic, of corse he didnt mean to do itn no one intends to go break someones leg, i would never imagine doing that.it was just a freek accident, and i feel sorry for da silva, very unlucky.

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  2. Brad Simkulet about 1 year ago

    Andrew. Good strong piece. Ignore the taunts and stupidity. I agree with you whole heartedly. I feel for Taylor and Eduardo and I think three games is right. Taylor has what...one red card before this one? If he does this again (which I doubt he will) then maybe we can make something of it. But Arsene (upon reflection) and Eduardo have both been cool about what happened, and for any Arsenal fans who were torn before that should be enough to put it all to rest.

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  3. Anonymous about 1 year ago

    Mis-times a tackle? Accident? This was no accident, it was intentional. He should not be banned for life, but he sure deserves more than 3 games. Heck, you can get more games for spitting on another player or insulting a ref!!! Taylor should get at least 6 or 7 games, at least!

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  4. Mark Syrett about 1 year ago

    Eduardo has been a good player for Arsenal the season. Especially considering it is his first in the EPL. Thi injury is tragic, but he will play again. If you look at the last two major injuries in the English game.

    Cisse - No one was near him, he slipped, at Anfield. Not exactly a dodgy pitch is it, so this was unavoidable.

    Smith - all he did was block a shot and landed badly. Out for 9 months. Again the only way you could avoid this is to say to a united player dont be passionate against Liverpool. Yeh while you at it make all rugby players wear tutus.

    So Eduardo is the first in a long time to be due to a tackle. Yet people want him banned, why??? Eduardo has forgiven, so why can't you? I am fully aware the article agrees with me Andrew, I am not going against you, but some of the seemingly idiotic readers we have on here.

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    • Matt S about 1 year ago

      Yep, again I agree all the way. Yet some people still bang on about how we "lost the art of tackling" - as if it used to be better in the 70s or 80s when real thugs got away with a lot worse than happens nowadays.

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  5. Simon Williams about 1 year ago

    It because people only remember the likes of Bobby Moore, and Franco Baresi, but they were the best in the world.

    Very few players past or present can match their level of quality, and while eveyone remembers them, they ignore butchers like Goikoetxea, Hunter, Charlton (who was the brawn alongside the finesse of Moore) etc etc.

    Defenders are far cleaner tacklers now than they ever were in the past, because they can't get away with anywhere near as much. Anyone who disagrees, try watching footage of Italy vs Chile from the 1962 World Cup, a famously brtual match, the infamous 'Battle of Santiago' has to be seen to be believed:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=uOtL1m1o_ok&feature=related

    Now that was extreme for any time frame, but it gives you an idea of what needed to happen for it to be regarded as extreme at all, and only TWO players were sent off in this match.

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    • Andrew McNair about 1 year ago

      I remember that game Simon. I saw it in a World Cup Doc. once. I'd encourage anyone reading to watch it.

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      You don't have to go that far back......Portugal-Holland in the last world cup should do it.

      But in neither of those matches was someone intensionally butchered.
      Intentionally inflicting damage is the point.

      The last I recall before Eduardo is Overmars being destroyed by some Belgian a few cups ago. A sub that came in with instructions to destroy him....and suceeded.
      The Eduardo incident is the worst I have ever seen past or present.
      Let's hope for all it ends there. Brazilians are not vendictive and Eduardo immediately forgave. Had that been an Argentinian, Chilean or Uruguay player....things would be different.....the rest of South America is little more tempermental and unforgiving than the Brazilians.

      DON'T BAN Taylor let him carry on ...sooner or later with some luck he'll strike the wrong bloke and then we can have a festival of broken English bones.

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    • Simon Williams about 1 year ago

      So its not just England you hold borderline racist stereotypical views about then, you are happy to target pretty much any country.

      Taxi for Darlon.

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    • S B about 1 year ago

      I cannot make heads or tails of what you just said.

      Everything I said above is true as I have seen it over many years of football.

      If you'd look at matches other than the ones that involve your teams you'd learn a lot.

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    • Simon Williams about 1 year ago

      ''I cannot make heads or tails of what you just said.''

      I think that says it all Darlon.

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  6. Anonymous about 1 year ago

    I agree that Taylor's tackle was mistimed. I also agree that he should not be banned for life...for the same reasons Andrew points out, no income, no career. At the same time...what about Eduardo? what about his career his income? There are risks players take when stepping into the pitch...I'm sure they are all aware of those, however, there are also rules...going studs first to make a tackle be it intentional or not is against them. Punishment is difficult to judge...what is fair and what is not? Its more a matter of opinion than anything else. I would go for a 9 month suspension...the amount of time it will possibly take Eduardo to get back on the pitch.

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  7. emmanuel paul about 1 year ago

    taylor doesnt deserve all this.it was an accident thats why he apologized to edu.or even flamini and gallas should be banned to one for kicking nani and the other one for a dangerous tacle on nani.or is because they are from arsenal and no one wants to comment on that

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  8. Anonymous about 1 year ago

    If you drink and drive you lose your license but if you drink and drive and kill somebody you go to jail for a very long time. Same thing here... No doubt that there are a lot worse takles but the end result should also be considered when it comes to punishment...

    Cheers!!!!

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  9. S B about 1 year ago

    Well said anony.......
    but there is something imortant that needs to be established here ....for I see we are swaying in the opposite direction a bit.........
    THE FACT IS ...THE ATTACK WAS FULLY INTENDED.....perhaps the extent of damage was not fully calculated but TO INFLICT DAMAGE WAS.

    There was no ball. The ball had been dispatched hours ago (in football time)
    in this so called fast league.

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