Reports: Jazz, Timberwolves and Spurs Discussing Five-Player Deal

Tyler Ward@twardyyyAnalyst IOctober 12, 2016

We've known for a minute that current Utah small forward C.J. Miles had been on the trading block. However, a question that hasn't been truly answered is if he would remain with the Jazz through the trade deadline.

It is now appearing that latter sentence would be answered within the next couple of days.

According to HOOPSWORLD, Miles and Josh Howard could headline a deal involving three teams.

HOOPSWORLD's Alex Kennedy broke the news earlier tonight:

"In the rumored deal, the Spurs would acquire Josh Howard, the Timberwolves would acquire C.J. Miles and Jamaal Tinsley and the Jazz would acquire Danny Green and Wayne Ellington. ....Sources described the talks as ongoing, but stressed that no deal is imminent."

So if this deal were to ultimately happen, who would be considered winners and losers in the proposed scenario?


Utah Jazz

The Jazz, who currently sit in 20-21, are in the playoff hunt right now. They are just two games behind the current eighth seed, the Houston Rockets. I really don't think they should make any deals at this point. A move like that would shake up the locker room.

As of right now, they are a team that is capable of making the playoffs. With a young frontcourt that features Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors and rookie Enes Kanter, the Jazz have a very talented roster.

They also have Devin Harris, who has shown great potential and is a good point guard in this league. He may not be Rajon Rondo or Chris Paul, but he can get the job done when called upon.

With their current roster, they can make the postseason, but they definitely seem to downgrade if this transaction were to happen.

They would be giving up three players, two of which have been contributing decently, while helping the team to a near-playoff appearance in the West.

Josh Howard signed with the Jazz before the season started and immediately had to learn a new system. He's contributed fairly well this season, averaging 8.8 points and 3.7 rebounds per game while playing about 23 minutes per game.

The inclusion of Miles is what gets me. He entered the league in 2005 out of high school and he's just 24 years old. He hasn't reached his prime yet and I believe he can become a great player when he reaches that point.

He's shown flashes of brilliance since entering the NBA and I think it'd be a mistake for the team to give up on him.

Even though Miles hasn't started a game this season, he is currently averaging 9.4 points per game. However, his minutes are considerably down this year, as Miles' playing time has decreased to approximately 18.9 minutes per game.

Last season, the forward played 25.2 minutes per game and also played in almost 24 minutes per game the year prior.

When given the opportunity, Miles is a solid player. And I believe he'll get a lot better as his career continues.

In exchange for Danny Green and Wayne Ellington, the Jazz would also be giving up ex-Pacer Jamaal Tinsley, who has successfully made a small comeback. He's only participated in 15 games, while playing about eight minutes per night.

He may not be a full-time contributor, but I believe he can work his way back up as a main back-up point guard in the NBA. He's worth the shot.

I just don't see why they'd give up those three players for two players who are unproven. Green is having his best year ever this season, while averaging 7.8 points and 3.6 rebounds per game as his minutes have increased significantly in his second year in San Antonio.

He rarely saw the court in Cleveland, the team who originally drafted him, and was waived at the end of his rookie season. The Spurs picked him up during last season and he showed glimpses of hope even though he played in just eight games.

This year, they've almost doubled his minutes from last season and he has played fairly well. Green is also a solid defender, but it looks to be just another Raja Bell.

The Jazz don't need another player like Bell, but a contributor like the two they'd give up. Minnesota would also ship Ellington to Utah, who has never averaged more than 20 minutes per game. Yes, he has some potential, but he still needs another season or two before he can be a night-to-night contributor.

I believe the Jazz mess up with their inclusion.

Verdict: Losers

Minnesota Timberwolves

The Timberwolves have been a pleasant surprise this season, but they may come to a halt after their key-contributing point guard Ricky Rubio ended his season with a torn ACL. His injury may have ended their playoff hopes, but they could still make it for all we know.

In exchange for Wayne Ellington, the Wolves receive a point guard, only it's not a player who can contribute more than, or even equal to, Rubio. That man is Jamaal Tinsley, who as said above, has made a miniature comeback to the NBA.

Yes, I believe he can be a quality helper in the NBA, but he's not a player who can lead them to the postseason for the first time in what seems like forever. He may be able to come in and contribute slightly, but it seems to be more of a fill-in rather than an actual acquisition.

However, the Wolves' consolation prize is C.J. Miles, which I automatically consider a win. The 24-year-old has shown flashes of potential in the past and for the Wolves to acquire him means good things.

It could possibly spell the end of Michael Beasley, who has seemingly been on the trading block for a while now (I believe he will be dealt at the trade deadline).

Miles would likely receive more playing time with Minnesota, which would help him flourish. It is entirely possible that he could come in and start if Beasley were to be dealt.

Wesley Johnson has been starting mostly at small forward, even though he is a natural shooting guard.

His output this season has also been a slight disappointment, as he is just currently averaging just 6.1 points and 2.6 rebounds in 22 minutes per contest. With the deal, the Wolves would be able to move Johnson back to shooting guard with Miles at small forward.

The only other small forward on the roster is Martell Webster, who has started just three games this season and is averaging a career-low 6.1 points per game. He's a solid player who just hasn't been given the opportunity this season.

But I believe the Wolves win with the addition of Miles. He only helps the future with the team, as he has the abilities to become a great player and he's just 24 years old.

With a roster that already includes Rubio (21), Kevin Love (23), Derrick Williams (20), Wes Johnson (24), Nikola Pekovic (26), the Wolves have a bright future ahead of them.

Minnesota's front office definitely would have definitely gotten a great deal if this were to happen

Verdict: Winners

San Antonio Spurs

Honestly, I really don't understand why the Spurs are in this deal. Maybe it helps them land someone else via trade with the loss of Daniel Green.

But, it would make much more sense if Green was making multiple millions of dollars this season. The third-year pro is making just $854,400 this year.

The Spurs really don't relieve themselves of much cap space and it's hard to imagine what they'd do anyway, unless it involves minor flexibility in a deal that includes Richard Jefferson, who is currently making $9.3 million this season.

Jefferson has been on the trading block for a while now, and he could be dealt at the deadline.

But regardless, it still doesn't make much sense.

Green has performed well this season, starting 12 games and playing about 23 minutes per game. Along the way, he's averaged career highs across the board in points (7.8), rebounds (3.6) assists (1.4) and steals (.9).

He's shown he can be a quality back-up in this league. He may never be a full-fledged starter, but he can get the job done on both sides of the ball. As stated above, he reminds me somewhat of Utah's Raja Bell and it necessarily isn't a bad thing.

It remains unclear as to how it will work for the Spurs, but I'm sure they're not done shopping around. Their verdict remains ungradeable at this point.

Verdict: Inconclusive

The only thing I can say is that we'll see what happens. The Warriors and Bucks worked out a deal earlier tonight involving Monta Ellis and Andrew Bogut, so anything is plausible.

Remember, it is the NBA.


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