NFL Round Table: The Redskins 2012 NFL Draft Trade
As we reported on the site, the Washington Redskins have come to terms with the St. Louis Rams in a trade which will allow the Redskins to acquire the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. Washington sends their first-round draft pick in each of the next three drafts, according to ESPN. What’s your take on the deal?
Nathan: Well this certainly means I’ll have to redo my mock draft for the site. Other than that, three first-round picks sounds like a very steep price. On the other hand, a quarterback like RG3 probably won’t be coming along in the next few years.
JMB: The Redskins really must believe RG3 is truly the future. Would you have paid three first-round picks for a truly great QB like Peyton Manning when he came out? Probably so. The problem is, there are NO guarantees in this process. There’s a reason a guy like Ryan Leaf was a first-round pick and Tom Brady was a sixth-rounder when he came out.
Even look at the 2009 draft. Darrius Heyward-Bey and Michael Crabtree were first-rounders and Mike Wallace was a third-rounder in the same draft.
So to give up three first-rounders and a second-rounder is incredibly risky as the more chances you have, the more chances you have to be right and accumulate top talent, especially under the new salary rules that makes rookie contracts less constraining.
Plus, even with RG3 and increased talent, to assume that the Redskins would suddenly become a 10+ win team is a stretch with the NFC East being an incredibly talented division. They still have to deal with the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, who all are playoff talented, even if they didn’t all execute last year.
So those picks will in all likelihood still be at least mid-first-round type picks. Lastly, in reading Mike’s optimistic article, and he has a right to be as I think the Redskins will be better this year with RG3 and some spending, I do think there is room for skepticism over the price.
Sure, the Redskins traded away picks back when they were a force, but during those great years they did hit on the picks they kept, and they didn’t have to deal with salary cap issues and free agency, and the draft is the way you supplement and overcome those issues.
Losing three picks for one player just seems like a poor choice to me without having hindsight.
Mark C: It is a big gamble and very risky in this business. I think the Redskins have some other issues that need to be addressed, and bringing on a young hotshot might focus the attention there for a while, but they have to give him time to grow.
Washington can be a fickle town, and everyone needs to give any new QB some time to settle in. It will be interesting to watch what happens next. Wasn’t it the crack offensive coordinator that said the current QB was “The Guy.”
I think they need to address other offensive issues, starting at the top, before betting the farm on a rookie QB. Is he the next Peyton Manning? Is he the next Cam Newton? Only time will tell.
Jon: It’s a risky move, but likely one they had to take to have any shot of getting out of the middle of the pack. The days of an Aaron Rodgers falling out of the top five are gone. Picking up others teams washed-up veteran QBs may float you for a bit, but it won’t get you a championship.
The Redskins have finally decided they want to get ‘their guy’ and I applaud them for that.
Let’s not overlook the economics of this. The team is hemorrhaging season ticket holders and taking a beating in the press for the awful game-day experience. RG3 has the potential to change all of that. And given the demographics of this area, if he pans out RG3 could be the biggest star this town has ever had.
Robert Aitken (@RobertAitkenBR): This is a big gamechanger. Three first-round picks and a second-round pick? That’s the biggest deal I can remember involving a top draft pick since the Eli Manning-Philip Rivers deal. That worked out well for all involved. This may end up going down as a big mistake by Washington of Ricky Williams-esque proportions.
Personally, I don’t think Washington will get their value, even with RG3. This may still keep the Peyton Manning push going, but that remains to be seen. That second pick could be used on Justin Blackmon, which would give them a great WR threat, something Manning is wooed with in Arizona, Miami and even Houston.
Rob: I agree that RG3 is likely going to be a special talent. He’s super-athletic and smart and is the type of franchise QB that Washington has been looking for. That said, the main problem over the past decade in DC is that the Redskins have “mortgaged their future” by disrespecting the draft.
In the past few seasons that trend took a turn for the better, as they have started to fill some of the numerous holes which still exist. One of them is at QB, no doubt about that, but for this trade to be worth it, RG3 has to be the type of talent who can get things done in spite of having all the other roster deficiencies.
Not having a first-round draft pick again until the 2015 draft is frustrating to me, and I’m sure the St. Louis Rams are going to take the picks that Washington traded them and put them to good use.
One of the only reasons this trade might make sense to me is because the Redskins would’ve likely had little chance of getting Justin Blackmon had they remained at No. 6.
Robert Aitken (@RobertAitkenBR): The biggest loser is the Colts actually. While Luck may be theirs still, unloading that pick for a boatload of picks just got a lot harder. If that is the price for RG3, what could Luck’s value possibly be?
Rob: I find it hard to believe that the Colts are considering anything other than drafting Andrew Luck. The fact that all the talk surrounding RG3 is about which team will draft him in the No. 2 spot speaks volumes for Luck, who is said to be a talent similar to John Elway (who appeared in twice as many Super Bowls as Peyton Manning).
Bryan Lienesch (@bclienesch ): Was it a lot of draft picks? Yes. But there are over 200 of those. How many RG3s are there? How many Lucks? Almost two weeks ago I said this is the move the Redskins should make and they did.
Everyone wants to hesitate out of fear of losing the draft picks. How much of our future are we giving away? How much is a franchise quarterback worth? In 20 years without a Super Bowl, the Redskins know as well as anyone how hard a franchise quarterback is to find.
No one is downplaying the risk involved, but there is risk in everything. There’s risk in Manning, there’s risk in Matt Flynn, there’s risk in Ryan Tannehill, and, yes, there’s even risk in Andrew Luck. We shouldn’t let flashy 40 times cloud our judgment, but we shouldn’t let fear of plucking another Heath Shuler turn us gun-shy, either.
Rob: All those things are true with the unknowns involved with the various options Washington could have at QB in the upcoming season. At least with Robert Griffin III you know you're getting the Heisman Trophy winner.
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